Is it me, or is this tune a complete rip off of "Binary Finary" - I THINK SO!

yeah...its Kontakt - Show Me A Sign on Nulife records..


And who are Kontakt, i hear you cry?!
Vinylgroover & The Redhed under another name

Really?? The techy mixes of Kokane were awesome.

THIS IS GARBAGE!!

Did you like the harder mix of Kokane?

*ahem* Yeah anyways, They were signed up by BMG (the music mogul behind Nu Life etc) to do some more commerical projects..

The guy behind Red Hed (forgotten his bloody name now) has also produced for the likes of Liberty X etc!

They're still doing some awesome harder stuff for Nukleuz though!

you'll make me cry claire!!

The mix I liked of kokane was the looped up disco-y, techy one. Think it was Nukluez green

Na, fair play tho. If thats what they want to do then cool. Its not a bad production, just a big step in a different direction.
I suppose its just the same as me producing techno and house.

Yeah the funkier mix was Line 2, which is the one most hard house fans hated!!! lol! - I remember i was sent the 3 original mixes before me & ashley did our remix, and i was just blown away by the production - we kept thinking "how on earth are we gonna better this?!?!"

They're both very very talented people and have been involved in lots of previous commercial projects - This isn't their first big girly trancer either, they've done some wicked others!
But yeah ur right, its all about diversity these days and the better u can diverse, the more chance u have of success, especially given the fact that the market for music atm is so fucked up!

that i definately know

why yes....what else would i possibly know that u like?

lol at the hh fans hating it ! typical

I never really buy any nukleuz stuff but went into my mates shop and it was playin and it was like "what the fucks that!" loved it.

Diversity is deffo the way foward, so many genres are crossing over into each other. I think its great, i hate boundries and this whole genre crap. But we wont get into that.

Good to have you about mate, and hope your a regular in the music forums

Unfortunately mate its the only forums I ever hang around in hahaha!

lol @ the hard house fans disliking the techy mixes! - That was the beauty of the release, it was really well done - they had the green disc for trance/techy fans and the blue disc for the hard house fans so it worked really well and the release was really successful

Well deserved too, because as you say the quality of the production on the original mixes was superb - As for that 4th remix...well....hahaha I honestly cant stand hearing it now, theres only a certain saturation point when u hear something u've produced before u notice little flaws which put u off it for life!!!

I can vouch for that! (guv'nors "busted")

That was done in my short hard house phase and i hate it now lol

ooh yeah and those too

Liam : Aaah didnt know you were behind that!!!!! - Wicked tune dude!!!! - One of the classic tidy trax releases I think which hasnt gotten boring/remixed!!!

I bloody hope they dont mate, they seem to have taken a lot of the other big hard housers from around the same era as Busted and murdered them

No more originality coming from Tidy Trax it seems at the moment, which is a shame IMO cos they're a fantastic label ran by great people - but they're too market orientated and the originality has really gone from them.....but thats for another topic

Yeah after that 1st deal with them we had loads of other stuff to put their way, which was in my opinion alot stronger than busted. But they werent interested, they seemed more focused on their in-house stable of producers.

We released all the tracks on our own label Purgatory tho so not all was lost.

Yeah didnt Tidy commission Busted from Purgatory in the first place, if my memory serves me right...?!

But its gone the opposite way at the moment - Most of the big tidy trax releases at the moment are all remixes of older classics but they're just ruining them - The new remix of Lab 4 "Candyman" is shocking, i cant see why its been done when people like Guyver, Paul Maddox/Paul Glazby etc can produce 1000x better tracks on their own...

Aye they liscenced it from Purg, but it wasnt a full release, just a tp sent out to DJs etc. All came about from Lashes playin it one night when Lee Haslaam was there, he liked it and got in contact. If I remember correctly Nukleuz showed an interest aswell (my production partner took care of most of the business side of it)

Ive lost all faith in tidy at the min as you said, they are just rehashing old tunes and murdering them. A big sign of lack of direction on their part.

The wind has been knocked out of their sails. Nukleuz have outshone them by a mile imo.

Yeah, i think Tidy are playing it pretty safe given the current shambles of the market by re-releasing tunes which a lot of their fan base (75% of tidy trax fans are likely to be new to the scene and their bouncier music is more accessible than the 'serious' sounds which Nukleuz release) will have heard of but wont own - therefore they just need to re-release the original and then chuck on a remix to justify the package - Great for the new faces to the scene, terrible for the purists...

At the end of the day (and i guess im slightly biased in saying this although i have thought this all along, honest!) Nukleuz do release better quality records but Tidy can make their releases more accessible - The originality and flow of production is always a lot higher with a Nukleuz release (except mine ) and thats why they've been the best selling label of recent times..

Tidy have got some amazing in-house producers but it seems they dont want to take a risk in releasing a record which might not break even. Nukleuz do take that risk and several releases may lose them money, but they keep faith in their artists and thats whats allowed the likes of BK to develop and become almost a household name..

*phew*

woah, you did think that through didnt you lol.

But totally agree, playin it safe is the easy option. It will be their downfall though.

Am i right in thinking Nukleuz are releasing DJ Dero "Revolution" ?? Awesome tune !! The remixes look interesting.

Yep its just come out on Nukleuz Green - Thats a good example of what i was saying - Thats quite a minor release and might not break even, but its subsidised by the bigger releases which can compensate for it - Thats why Nukleuz are streets ahead of tidy imo!

And i really didnt think that thru actually lol, just my flow of thought! Which, at 2am, is actually kinda scary...haha!

Need to check out that Revolution tune actually, i've got a previous release from DJ Dero somewhere and it absolutely rocks..

DJ Dero is awesome, puts tracks out on Robbie Riveras new label Juicy Music.

Are you coming to London for SMILE on 13th Sept? I remember Chris hutch sayin you were. Im playin that night so would be good to meet you.

Yep all bein well etc, should definately be coming up for that one!! Will be good to meet the crew etc!

Anyways i need sleep now haha! cheers for the chat matey!

No bother, speak soon.

Can sum1 explain the

Nukleuz Black/Green/etc plz....

Represents different styles of tunes... much like Tidy White/Tidy Two etc etc tho im sure someone will correct me if this is not exactly correct but la la its late etc!!

LOL, i know there diff styles.... Thats why i want sum1 to explain it to me!

Claire is right with the styles, but red was bouncy, not sure whether its still going but thats what it was.

Yeah - Red is still going but its just not doing too well because theres no one buying bouncy music at the moment..

The 3 main colours at the mo are Blue (hard house), Green (trance/italian trance) and Black (hardstyle) - Theres some new material due on Purple soon tho! (and its wicked!)