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#672074 - 09/24/2003 01:18 PM ***** 2nd CTW Forum Hack *****  
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Someone logged in as one of the Admin accounts and started to delete all the boards/posts until all but 2 private ones were left (once I disabled the admin accounts).

I've had to revert back to the last backup - which was on the 21st Sept.

Still investigating ...

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#672075 - 09/24/2003 01:20 PM Re: ***** 2nd CTW Forum Hack ***** [Re: James_dup1]  
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Thought thats what had happened.

What useless tossers think it's fun, cool, clever to do this?

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#672076 - 09/24/2003 01:21 PM Re: ***** 2nd CTW Forum Hack ***** [Re: Capn_Jack]  
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Its down to security which I'm looking at now.

Its expected I suppose.

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#672077 - 09/24/2003 01:22 PM Re: ***** 2nd CTW Forum Hack ***** [Re: Capn_Jack]  
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that's so SHIT. bet it was someone doing it just to prove a point. how pathetic.

#672078 - 09/24/2003 01:22 PM Re: ***** 2nd CTW Forum Hack ***** [Re: James_dup1]  
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So if they logged in through an admin account, who & how did they get the information????

#672079 - 09/24/2003 01:22 PM Re: ***** 2nd CTW Forum Hack ***** [Re: TomD]  
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that's so SHIT. bet it was someone doing it just to prove a point. how pathetic.



I agree.

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#672080 - 09/24/2003 01:23 PM Re: ***** 2nd CTW Forum Hack ***** [Re: James_dup1]  
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Its probably one of those twats who joined recently. You know the ones who type, well like tw4t5. Its usually hackers who type like that.

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#672081 - 09/24/2003 01:24 PM Re: ***** 2nd CTW Forum Hack ***** [Re: James_dup1]  
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Can anyone shed any light on this ?

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#672082 - 09/24/2003 01:24 PM Re: ***** 2nd CTW Forum Hack ***** [Re: miss_diddy]  
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So if they logged in through an admin account, who & how did they get the information????



Hacking into the accounts, or something.

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#672083 - 09/24/2003 01:25 PM Re: ***** 2nd CTW Forum Hack ***** [Re: Capn_Jack]  
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So if they logged in through an admin account, who & how did they get the information????



Hacking into the accounts, or something.



dunno, not being a hacker I have no idea how they do things, or why for that matter!!!

#672084 - 09/24/2003 01:25 PM Re: ***** 2nd CTW Forum Hack ***** [Re: CreamyC]  
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1) Someone could have guessed an admin account password
2) Someone could have been told an admin account password
3) Someone could have hacked the box
4) An Admin could have remained logged in with 'remember me' on another PC (like in a cafe)

Kev/Sarah/Mods - can you all change your passwords ASAP

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#672085 - 09/24/2003 01:26 PM Re: ***** 2nd CTW Forum Hack ***** [Re: Capn_Jack]  
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On your face.
Sure its possible to track the IP of the person who logged into the account ?

I hope it is. And I hope they are publically NAMED. (IF it was someone on here)

I hope this is possible.

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#672086 - 09/24/2003 01:26 PM Re: ***** 2nd CTW Forum Hack ***** [Re: James_dup1]  
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Guys, lets not go down a speculating route for weeks now - it happened - end of - hopefully it wont happen again, if it does we'll sort it.

Enough stuff to sort out let alone this.

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#672087 - 09/24/2003 01:27 PM Re: ***** 2nd CTW Forum Hack ***** [Re: Capn_Jack]  
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Could it be.

a) A new member that hadn't got on with the people on the board.
b) An old member.
c) Someone who feels the need to hack for kicks.
d) Rivalry.

???

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#672088 - 09/24/2003 01:27 PM Re: ***** 2nd CTW Forum Hack ***** [Re: James_dup1]  
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Seems strange that you get a couple of wannabe hackers join the board then a few days later the shit starts hitting the fan.

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#672089 - 09/24/2003 01:27 PM Re: ***** 2nd CTW Forum Hack ***** [Re: Maria]  
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Sure its possible to track the IP of the person who logged into the account ?

I hope it is. And I hope they are publically NAMED.

I hope this is possible.



WHO FUCK SENT ME A THREATENING EMAIL?

WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS ?

YOU FUCKING SELFISH, JEALOUS CUNTS.

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#672090 - 09/24/2003 01:28 PM Re: ***** 2nd CTW Forum Hack ***** [Re: CreamyC]  
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Kev,

What happend to being professional ? lol

Talk about it tonight, its not as bad as we think - we've just lost a few posts. Dont play up to them.

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#672091 - 09/24/2003 01:29 PM Re: ***** 2nd CTW Forum Hack ***** [Re: Crill]  
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Seems strange that you get a couple of wannabe hackers join the board then a few days later the shit starts hitting the fan.



Kinda what I thought. Those ones using strange lettering in their names.

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#672092 - 09/24/2003 01:29 PM Re: ***** 2nd CTW Forum Hack ***** [Re: Crill]  
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Its probably one of those twats who joined recently. You know the ones who type, well like tw4t5. Its usually hackers who type like that.



Oh dear

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#672093 - 09/24/2003 01:30 PM Re: ***** 2nd CTW Forum Hack ***** [Re: Capn_Jack]  
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Seems strange that you get a couple of wannabe hackers join the board then a few days later the shit starts hitting the fan.



Kinda what I thought. Those ones using strange lettering in their names.


Yeah its called l33t. Its a language a lot of hackers use. Knew the little pricks were trouble as soon as I saw them.

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#672094 - 09/24/2003 01:31 PM Re: ***** 2nd CTW Forum Hack ***** [Re: FredTheBaddie]  
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I'm more than certain its not a 'real' hacker. Its someone who's only logged into the forum admin account - i.e. not someone who has hacked the box and caused shit elsewhere on the site.

The first hack was back in November 2001 when Jane Turner got the password off my ex girlfriend and deleted EVERYTHING (without a backup! lol)

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#672095 - 09/24/2003 01:31 PM Re: ***** 2nd CTW Forum Hack ***** [Re: James_dup1]  
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Kev,

What happend to being professional ? lol

Talk about it tonight, its not as bad as we think - we've just lost a few posts. Dont play up to them.



Na mate, this is more than enough I can take of this shit.

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#672096 - 09/24/2003 01:32 PM Re: ***** 2nd CTW Forum Hack ***** [Re: CreamyC]  
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just have to 'accept' these things kev - not as bad as when Jane 'hacked' it lol

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#672097 - 09/24/2003 01:37 PM Re: ***** 2nd CTW Forum Hack ***** [Re: James_dup1]  
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I aint laughing.

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#672098 - 09/24/2003 01:37 PM Re: ***** 2nd CTW Forum Hack ***** [Re: James_dup1]  
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Have you lot any idea how someone would 'hack' this website ? It's not quite as simple as writing in strange letters.

As James says, most hacks are done by using indirection and playing on people's ignorance. It's much easier to guess/get told a password than intercepting a single packet to a webserver in amonst hundreds of others on a different network and extracting the password (Are passwords sent using SSL James ?) .
Trust me, I build commercial websites for a living. And how many registered users on football betting websites have their favourite team's name as their password?
It's hardly rocket science, is it ?

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#672099 - 09/24/2003 01:38 PM Re: ***** 2nd CTW Forum Hack ***** [Re: CreamyC]  
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Creamy the e-mail can be tracked. I'm sure some of the more net savvy types on here will know where you should go for help.

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#672100 - 09/24/2003 01:40 PM Re: ***** 2nd CTW Forum Hack ***** [Re: Capn_Jack]  
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In either case this is classed as 'Trespas to goods' and we will find who is responsible

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#672101 - 09/24/2003 01:40 PM Re: ***** 2nd CTW Forum Hack ***** [Re: Capn_Jack]  
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Creamy the e-mail can be tracked. I'm sure some of the more net savvy types on here will know where you should go for help.



Dont worry, thats being looked into as we speak now.

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#672102 - 09/24/2003 01:45 PM Re: ***** 2nd CTW Forum Hack ***** [Re: FredTheBaddie]  
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It's not quite as simple as writing in strange letters.



I was going on those two "new members" who joined to troll the boards, when they failed to get the kind of rise they wanted they left, then this happened. Just pointing out potential people. I'm sure it's not a stranger to the boards.

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#672103 - 09/24/2003 01:47 PM Re: ***** 2nd CTW Forum Hack ***** [Re: Capn_Jack]  
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It's not quite as simple as writing in strange letters.



I was going on those two "new members" who joined to troll the boards, when they failed to get the kind of rise they wanted they left, then this happened. Just pointing out potential people. I'm sure it's not a stranger to the boards.



This relates to an underlying issue that was never dealt with first time round.

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#672104 - 09/24/2003 01:50 PM Re: ***** 2nd CTW Forum Hack ***** [Re: Capn_Jack]  
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I know its not just about typing funny. But its well known that hackers use this language and it just seems funny to me that within a few days of these guys joining we find ourselves with no forums!

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#672105 - 09/24/2003 01:50 PM Re: ***** 2nd CTW Forum Hack ***** [Re: CreamyC]  
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This relates to an underlying issue that was never dealt with first time round.



Ah righto.

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#672106 - 09/24/2003 01:51 PM Re: ***** 2nd CTW Forum Hack ***** [Re: Capn_Jack]  
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We've had behind the scenes threats now for the last month.

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#672107 - 09/24/2003 01:51 PM Re: ***** 2nd CTW Forum Hack ***** [Re: Capn_Jack]  
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It's not quite as simple as writing in strange letters.



I was going on those two "new members" who joined to troll the boards, when they failed to get the kind of rise they wanted they left, then this happened. Just pointing out potential people. I'm sure it's not a stranger to the boards.



In what way are they are more likely than anyone else on here. Ok, anyone new who's a troll. How about wizzy bb ? Not that I'm suggesting it's him, just pointing out the flaw in your logic.

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#672108 - 09/24/2003 01:51 PM Re: ***** 2nd CTW Forum Hack ***** [Re: Crill]  
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there are a lot of possible peeps in this conundrum as far as im concerned!!!......

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I know its not just about typing funny.



Well that seems to be the only evidence by which you are accusing these two.

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But its well known that hackers use this language and it just seems funny to me that within a few days of these guys joining we find ourselves with no forums!



Right. And you know all about hacking, do you ?

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#672110 - 09/24/2003 01:55 PM Re: ***** 2nd CTW Forum Hack ***** [Re: FredTheBaddie]  
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It's not quite as simple as writing in strange letters.



I was going on those two "new members" who joined to troll the boards, when they failed to get the kind of rise they wanted they left, then this happened. Just pointing out potential people. I'm sure it's not a stranger to the boards.



In what way are they are more likely than anyone else on here. Ok, anyone new who's a troll. How about wizzy bb ? Not that I'm suggesting it's him, just pointing out the flaw in your logic.



I could have named a huge list. No flaw. Just too lazy to type everyones names, that could be a potential.

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So why single those two out ?

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