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#660165 - 09/09/2003 03:08 PM What do you think of the techier Hard House?  
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I think the techier Hard Dance is...
Something different - I really like it
Dull and boring - not my cup of tea
OK I suppose, nothing special though




Just wondering wht people thought of it?

I quite like it actually!


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#660166 - 09/09/2003 03:11 PM Re: What do you think of the techier Hard House? [Re: LittleMissLoud]  
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Cant vote!! but I like the techier sound of hardhouse, HH has been going that way for sometime, which is a good thing!!!


#660167 - 09/09/2003 03:14 PM Re: What do you think of the techier Hard House? [Re: miss_diddy]  
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Ooh, sorry Lisa!

I too really like it, as it is very driving. However, I do like my music to be quite hands-in-the-air if ya know what I mean, which the new stuff ain't.


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#660168 - 09/09/2003 03:16 PM Re: What do you think of the techier Hard House? [Re: LittleMissLoud]  
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True.. but there is some great uplifting hard trance out there too!!


#660169 - 09/09/2003 03:46 PM Re: What do you think of the techier Hard House? [Re: miss_diddy]  
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Ali why did you bother to put a poll up hon?? you know it aint acurrate!!


#660170 - 09/09/2003 03:47 PM Re: What do you think of the techier Hard House? [Re: miss_diddy]  
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not a huge fan... mixing the 2 very rarely works in my opinion as the finished product is usually not as good as techno, nor decent hardhouse!

If I wanted to listen to techno, I would go see Adam Beyer, not Ingo....


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#660171 - 09/09/2003 03:47 PM Re: What do you think of the techier Hard House? [Re: LittleMissLoud]  
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I too like it.... more variation to what is in my opinion (of course) an wicked genre!!


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#660172 - 09/09/2003 03:48 PM Re: What do you think of the techier Hard House? [Re: Chris_Hutchinson]  
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its laffin!! really like it its dirty!

#660173 - 09/09/2003 03:49 PM Re: What do you think of the techier Hard House? [Re: Chris_Hutchinson]  
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not a huge fan... mixing the 2 very rarely works in my opinion as the finished product is usually not as good as techno, nor decent hardhouse!

If I wanted to listen to techno, I would go see Adam Beyer, not Ingo....




saying that..... the nick sentience rmx of 'ignition' is pure genius


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#660174 - 09/09/2003 03:50 PM Re: What do you think of the techier Hard House? [Re: Chris_Hutchinson]  
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not a huge fan... mixing the 2 very rarely works in my opinion as the finished product is usually not as good as techno, nor decent hardhouse!

If I wanted to listen to techno, I would go see Adam Beyer, not Ingo....




saying that..... the nick sentience rmx of 'ignition' is pure genius






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#660175 - 09/09/2003 03:53 PM Re: What do you think of the techier Hard House? [Re: Claire DC]  
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AS IF U JUST QUOTED URESELF!!

#660176 - 09/09/2003 04:12 PM Re: What do you think of the techier Hard House? [Re: jon_m]  
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AS IF U JUST QUOTED URESELF!!




i clicked 'quote' instead of 'edit' and couldnt be arsed to go back so made new post instead

still stand by what i said originally though, but there are always gonna be exceptions


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#660177 - 09/09/2003 04:13 PM Re: What do you think of the techier Hard House? [Re: Chris_Hutchinson]  
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wont let me vote - chalk one up for option#3 for me plz :-)


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#660178 - 09/09/2003 04:14 PM Re: What do you think of the techier Hard House? [Re: miss_diddy]  
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Cant vote!! but I like the techier sound of hardhouse, HH has been going that way for sometime, which is a good thing!!!




u didnt like my cd. hardhouse dont really get much more techy than the way i play it


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#660179 - 09/09/2003 04:15 PM Re: What do you think of the techier Hard House? [Re: Chris_Hutchinson]  
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#660180 - 09/09/2003 04:16 PM Re: What do you think of the techier Hard House? [Re: Mr_Happy]  
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Cant vote!! but I like the techier sound of hardhouse, HH has been going that way for sometime, which is a good thing!!!




u didnt like my cd. hardhouse dont really get much more techy than the way i play it




I did not say I did not like your cd, Layrence, blatant lie!! I said it was darker rthan I had expected it to be & that I do like it, but have to be in right frame of mind for such darkness!!


#660181 - 09/09/2003 04:20 PM Re: What do you think of the techier Hard House? [Re: miss_diddy]  
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Cant vote!! but I like the techier sound of hardhouse, HH has been going that way for sometime, which is a good thing!!!




u didnt like my cd. hardhouse dont really get much more techy than the way i play it




I did not say I did not like your cd, Layrence, blatant lie!! I said it was darker rthan I had expected it to be & that I do like it, but have to be in right frame of mind for such darkness!!




ah sorry. i do appolagise.

got a new cd 4 u and tony which i'll bring to smile 4 u (with the leiberator cd as well )


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#660182 - 09/09/2003 04:23 PM Re: What do you think of the techier Hard House? [Re: Mr_Happy]  
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Excellent hon, look forward to listening to it!!


#660183 - 09/09/2003 04:27 PM Re: What do you think of the techier Hard House? [Re: miss_diddy]  
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come to think, i think theres only 2 or 3 hardhouse tunes on there. the rest is techno (acid/squat party) and nu nrg

there is a trance track on there as well



just a shame the mixing is shocking lol
thats y ur guy is the DJ and i'm the hobbiest


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#660184 - 09/09/2003 06:15 PM Re: What do you think of the techier Hard House? [Re: Mr_Happy]  
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My personal preference is for HH to be bouncy and fun and for techno to be techno, i.e. Speedy J, Jeff Mills.

I do think tech trance works ok though.

#660185 - 09/09/2003 06:16 PM Re: What do you think of the techier Hard House? [Re: Mr_Happy]  
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If you like the techier stuff, just wait til you hear the stuff im goin to be airing this sat at SMILE.

You will all like it, I assure you.


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#660186 - 09/09/2003 06:17 PM Re: What do you think of the techier Hard House? [Re: Mr_Happy]  
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just a shame the mixing is shocking lol
thats y ur guy is the DJ and i'm the hobbiest




Happy: ur mixing is spot on, and a damn site more interesting than a lot of peeps.

#660187 - 09/09/2003 06:34 PM Re: What do you think of the techier Hard House? [Re: Tommy]  
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just a shame the mixing is shocking lol
thats y ur guy is the DJ and i'm the hobbiest




Happy: ur mixing is spot on, and a damn site more interesting than a lot of peeps.




thanx tom


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i love techno / techno'y sounds

so, good

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so, good




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so, good




You better be on the floor, dancing during my set at smile then. (with a pink guinness in your hand)




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What do you think of the techier Hard House?

Phil Reynolds style

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#660193 - 09/10/2003 01:12 PM Re: What do you think of the techier Hard House? [Re: Mr_Moo]  
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What do you think of the techier Hard House?

Phil Reynolds style




if u meen u prefer phil reynolds style of hardhouse then fair enuf

but if ur saying u like phil reynolds style of techy hardhouse then i think u need to get ur ears checked


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#660194 - 09/10/2003 01:17 PM Re: What do you think of the techier Hard House? [Re: Mr_Happy]  
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just to point 1 thing out:

i cant stand the hard house producers interpretation of techno. but i love the techno producers interpretation of hardhouse. ie guy mcaffer, chris liberator, D.A.V.E. the drummer, etc


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#660195 - 09/10/2003 01:30 PM Re: What do you think of the techier Hard House? [Re: Mr_Happy]  
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Mr Happy: I don't know many specific examples of techno-influenced hard house (apart from some Nick Sentience), but I'm inclined to agree.

I love the "hard house" end of techno - dirty and gritty and driving, but still not devoid of funk.

But having heard some of the dodgier techno-influenced hard house, I'd say there are a lot of people jumping on the techno bandwagon ("cool, I'll just make my track more minimal") who you can tell don't really "get" techno. Often I find the tracks are too fast, ruining any subtlety or "techiness" of the groove.

I reckon there's a fine line speed-wise; it depends on the track, but in general I find techno a bit dodgy above 145bpm. Some of my favourite techno tracks are only around 135bpm but they still sound rock hard!

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just to point 1 thing out:

i cant stand the hard house producers interpretation of techno. but i love the techno producers interpretation of hardhouse. ie guy mcaffer, chris liberator, D.A.V.E. the drummer, etc




in fairness, the stuff they make is squat/acid based and has nowt to do with hh.....

good to see we agree on the main topic tho :-)


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But having heard some of the dodgier techno-influenced hard house, I'd say there are a lot of people jumping on the techno bandwagon ("cool, I'll just make my track more minimal") who you can tell don't really "get" techno.



BTW - I'm not just having a dig at hard house producers here.

Over the last couple of years, as the popularity of progressive house has declined, a number of prog producers/labels have leapt on the tech-house bandwagon, turning their hands to some of the lamest "techy" productions I have ever heard.

The problem is always the bandwagon-jumpers - trying to make stuff they think will sell rather than stuff they are actually any good at producing.

#660198 - 09/10/2003 04:48 PM Re: What do you think of the techier Hard House? [Re: LittleMissLoud]  
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I haven't read this post apart fromt he first couple... It really does depend on who plays it... I've heard some real shit come from a DJ trying to play Techy when they shouldn't even try...

#660199 - 09/10/2003 06:47 PM Re: What do you think of the techier Hard House? [Re: Chris_Hutchinson]  
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just to point 1 thing out:

i cant stand the hard house producers interpretation of techno. but i love the techno producers interpretation of hardhouse. ie guy mcaffer, chris liberator, D.A.V.E. the drummer, etc




in fairness, the stuff they make is squat/acid based and has nowt to do with hh.....

good to see we agree on the main topic tho :-)




o god yeah. its not hardhouse and has nothing to do with hard house. but its arguable that they r the harddance end of techno just as jon doe is the hardhouse end of trance


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techy techy techy techy techy !!! Love it !!


But whole set just out of techy stuff ca nget a bit boring...as with any style tbh..



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techy techy techy techy techy !!! Love it !!


But whole set just out of techy stuff ca nget a bit boring...as with any style tbh..






y should it tho? surely if a DJ is playing a particular style and its baoring then its the DJ's fault for playing it badly?


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techy techy techy techy techy !!! Love it !!


But whole set just out of techy stuff ca nget a bit boring...as with any style tbh..






depends really Pierre!! If it is too ploddy then yeh, but however give some dark dirty, acid tech then woo hoo!!!!


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techy techy techy techy techy !!! Love it !!


But whole set just out of techy stuff ca nget a bit boring...as with any style tbh..






y should it tho? surely if a DJ is playing a particular style and its baoring then its the DJ's fault for playing it badly?



no!! sasha is a top dj but one of his sets would bore the fuck out of me!! id probably fall asleep!!

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It's just that a DJ needs to throw in a bit of variety into his/her set..Ok, fair enough if they're only playing 40 mins or so, then it's kewl yea, but if their playing a marathon set, it's really going to start to sounds "samey".

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