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Capn_Jack said:
So whats the plan?

How is this going to be resolved?

Could the community help out?

What happens when the person is caught?

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Simple, we fuck them up

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Scream said:
the ironic thing gaining access to the srever would probably be a lot easier than to get into the config files for the board.

the thing is i find it strange, someone that can do this sort of thing don't usually tell anyone, they do it and let it be done. UNLESS it's a personal grudge. However if this person has been making threats it doesn't mean it's them. It a little food for thought on this.

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well if they are caught they can be prosectuded as it's breaking the law. however it would be a waste of time. I think we should learn from this lesson, make the password for admin over 8 alphanumeric characters long. I mean the more characters use the better and harder the password to crack.

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but at present, there is no physical evidence. James get the activity logs if you log the transactions to the site. As you'll know roughly when this happened. Find the IP, then tracert it. this will help as then you can contact the ISP and let the deal with it. they will have more clout behind them than what you can do. I see that as the best approach.

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well if they are caught they can be prosectuded as it's breaking the law. however it would be a waste of time. I think we should learn from this lesson, make the password for admin over 8 alphanumeric characters long. I mean the more characters use the better and harder the password to crack.

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Assuming the password was cracked. Which it almost certainly wasn't.

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Scream said:
well if they are caught they can be prosectuded as it's breaking the law. however it would be a waste of time. I think we should learn from this lesson, make the password for admin over 8 alphanumeric characters long. I mean the more characters use the better and harder the password to crack.

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Assuming the password was cracked. Which it almost certainly wasn't.

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digitalliquid said:
Isn't it reasonable to assume that in deleting the forums, in such an obvious manner, the hacker wasn't a "pro" as, if they were, surely the information potentially available would have been used in a more subtle/catastrophic way. i.e. blanket e.mail virus to the community or placing a virus within the web page itself? (I'm assuming the admin control panel gives full rights/access to files etc)
It's just a thought but, perhaps, CTW and the Community got off lightly with an opportunist who wasn't technically able to do anything more than push delete !

It's just a thought......

......who ever did it should have their hard drives inserted up their rectum - now that would be MUCH better than a toy car in a condom (JA the movie)

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Scream said:
could of been guessed. Always a possibility. Don't rule it out just cus it looks far fetched. I mean they never though two jets would crash into the wtc but it did.

if you start ruling things out like that then you're only setting yourself up for a fall.

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could of been guessed. Always a possibility. Don't rule it out just cus it looks far fetched. I mean they never though two jets would crash into the wtc but it did.

if you start ruling things out like that then you're only setting yourself up for a fall.

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Ok, but making it longer doesn't necessarilly make it harder to guess if people still use dictionary words or words related to themselved in some way. How would you go about guessing someone's password ?

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Scream said:
guessing someones password is pretty simple really. like you mentioned earlier about the football, and how men use their teams. you just do a bit of research into that person and take educated guesses. As most people don't like using passwords that are to complicated as they will forget them easily.

like i said though mate alphanumeric they are a lot harder to guess. that's why i said alphanumeric characters.

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Scouse said:
could have a virus on the server like bugbear or someone like a moderater used a internet cafe and not logged of properly or the cafe has a virus which some hacker might use to get info as am sure hackers are not that stupid to log on to a web site and then hack it there more likely to put the virus on a internet cafe and then pop back to get the required info they need to use at home

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Scream said:
guessing someones password is pretty simple really. like you mentioned earlier about the football, and how men use their teams. you just do a bit of research into that person and take educated guesses. As most people don't like using passwords that are to complicated as they will forget them easily.

like i said though mate alphanumeric they are a lot harder to guess. that's why i said alphanumeric characters.

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Scouse said:
could have a virus on the server like bugbear or someone like a moderater used a internet cafe and not logged of properly or the cafe has a virus which some hacker might use to get info as am sure hackers are not that stupid to log on to a web site and then hack it there more likely to put the virus on a internet cafe and then pop back to get the required info they need to use at home

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could have a virus on the server like bugbear or someone like a moderater used a internet cafe and not logged of properly or the cafe has a virus which some hacker might use to get info as am sure hackers are not that stupid to log on to a web site and then hack it there more likely to put the virus on a internet cafe and then pop back to get the required info they need to use at home

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As far as I know the server runs on Linux. So it's pretty unlikely there's a virus.

Scream, I thought you meant allowed alphnumeric rather than required alphanumeric.

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CreamyC said:
Wake up, the password wasn't guessed or hacked.

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CreamyC said:
Lets cut the bullshit. It wasn't hacked. Simple.

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Scream said:
if it wasn't hacked then why is this thread called 2nd CTW Forum Hack??

has someone been silly and accidently deleted the db?

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if it wasn't hacked then why is this thread called 2nd CTW Forum Hack??

has someone been silly and accidently deleted the db?

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Scream said:
to gain access to anything computer related via a password or whatever means would be considered a hack unless someone has made a general mistake here.

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to gain access to anything computer related via a password or whatever means would be considered a hack unless someone has made a general mistake here.

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Capn_Jack said:
So to sum up.

a) Someone gained access to the admin password (by whatever means).
b) The forums were deleted.
c) The forums were then restored to the latest available backup.
d) New passwords were suggested.
e) There have been behind the scenes threats.
f) The "attacker" is unknown, for the moment.

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TomD said:
So to sum up the summary:

a) everyone's making far too much of a fuss about this and it's positively yawn-inducing to anyone outside, erm, about four people.

now can we get back to normality please. i'm missing the usual threads about people's miserable lives and jobs

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TomD said:
now can we get back to normality please. i'm missing the usual threads about people's miserable lives and jobs

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Capn_Jack said:
Ugh... More Mr Happy threads.

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Ugh... More Mr Happy threads.

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innit!!

i want to see the usual "i went to the doctor and he said i've got a tummyache" style stuff. this is too intense for me

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