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#713078 - 11/11/2003 08:13 PM Re: sets getting shorter [Re: Claire DC]  
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labels like tidy trax dont help by not promoting up and comming producers, only their in house team. however i dont think they're soley to blame. not by a long shot. if DJs played a bit more varied selection of labels then smaller labels would have a chance to be heard.

sadly its a vicious circle. alot of clubbers only want to hear their favourite tunes. so DJs play the big tunes so clubbers dont hear tunes by less known names so the less known names dont get a chance to beome big names (i think that made sence)


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#713079 - 11/11/2003 08:23 PM Re: sets getting shorter [Re: liquideyes]  
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so what are you saying Andy, it is the tunes that make a shit dj then???



Yes, that is exactly what I'm saying.
A DJ can only be as good as his records.




defo - track selection is the key to being a decent dj imo - if you cant program a set properly then it doesnt matter how good you are technically, your set will be shite!


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#713080 - 11/11/2003 08:26 PM Re: sets getting shorter [Re: Chris_Hutchinson]  
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ala fergie (sorry liam but i still think his track selection is shocking)


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#713081 - 11/11/2003 08:30 PM Re: sets getting shorter [Re: Mr_Happy]  
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ala fergie (sorry liam but i still think his track selection is shocking)




not heard him for about 18months.... but last time I did hear him play, he was awesome!

tho I hear he keeps backspinning all the time now??


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#713082 - 11/11/2003 08:48 PM Re: sets getting shorter [Re: Chris_Hutchinson]  
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18 months ago he was awful!!

his much better now imo


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#713083 - 11/11/2003 09:09 PM Re: sets getting shorter [Re: Mr_Happy]  
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ala fergie (sorry liam but i still think his track selection is shocking)




OK Laurence, let me remind you of something.

This is an extract from Laurence's post about "AMazing sets by Glasto DJs"

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* fergie - was wondering past the radio1 stage to hear techno banging out. started stomping away and heard some geeza on the yell out "fergie on radio 1" and i'm like - "fuk - i didnt know fergie could actually play good set!!". its always nice to be proven wrong by a dj playing a blinding set. my only critasisum to him would be: was there really need to scratch over EVERY breakdown? but i'm not even gonna complain about it as the scratching was on beat every time and his mixing was as flawless as usual





I dont care whether you like Fergie tbh, just stick to your own opinions.
I think he has gone too techy now, hes goin to shoot himself in the foot. I know for a fact numbers have dropped on his show in the last four months.

Hes a friend of mine, not my boyfriend.


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#713084 - 11/11/2003 09:13 PM Re: sets getting shorter [Re: LiamStyles]  
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well I dont think sets are shorter, I think nights just aint long enough!!!!!


#713085 - 11/11/2003 09:14 PM Re: sets getting shorter [Re: LiamStyles]  
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ala fergie (sorry liam but i still think his track selection is shocking)




OK Laurence, let me remind you of something.

This is an extract from Laurence's post about "AMazing sets by Glasto DJs"

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* fergie - was wondering past the radio1 stage to hear techno banging out. started stomping away and heard some geeza on the yell out "fergie on radio 1" and i'm like - "fuk - i didnt know fergie could actually play good set!!". its always nice to be proven wrong by a dj playing a blinding set. my only critasisum to him would be: was there really need to scratch over EVERY breakdown? but i'm not even gonna complain about it as the scratching was on beat every time and his mixing was as flawless as usual





I dont care whether you like Fergie tbh, just stick to your own opinions.
I think he has gone too techy now, hes goin to shoot himself in the foot. I know for a fact numbers have dropped on his show in the last four months.

Hes a friend of mine, not my boyfriend.




i also said his better now than he was 18 months ago. but 1 good set @ glasto doesnt meen his a great DJ


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#713086 - 11/11/2003 09:17 PM Re: sets getting shorter [Re: Mr_Happy]  
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i also said his better now than he was 18 months ago. but 1 good set @ glasto doesnt meen his a great DJ




Well he cant be doing to bad either Laurence!!


#713087 - 11/11/2003 09:43 PM Re: sets getting shorter [Re: miss_diddy]  
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i also said his better now than he was 18 months ago. but 1 good set @ glasto doesnt meen his a great DJ




Well he cant be doing to bad either Laurence!!




yes miss diddy he cant. after all my opinion doesnt count does it


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#713088 - 11/11/2003 09:54 PM Re: sets getting shorter [Re: Mr_Happy]  
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i also said his better now than he was 18 months ago. but 1 good set @ glasto doesnt meen his a great DJ




Well he cant be doing to bad either Laurence!!




yes miss diddy he cant. after all my opinion doesnt count does it




Laurence dont get so touchy & shitty boy, it is ok for you to point out to peeps, well be man enough to take it back, on the shoulders eh!!!


#713089 - 11/11/2003 09:58 PM Re: sets getting shorter [Re: miss_diddy]  
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Dude, relax!

bit of craic and all that. I just dont understand why everytime someone wants to slate Ferg, they wait for me to jump in to his defence.

Everyone here knows Im a STRONG believer in "each to his/her own", you especially.

Say what you want about the paddy fucker!


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#713090 - 11/11/2003 10:06 PM Re: sets getting shorter [Re: LiamStyles]  
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Say what you want about the paddy fucker!




if you dont mind

his ugly too



i've always said tho that the man has technical skills and tallents to die for. i envy him for that.


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#713091 - 11/12/2003 12:54 AM Re: sets getting shorter [Re: Mr_Happy]  
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#713092 - 11/12/2003 01:01 AM Re: sets getting shorter [Re: Claire DC]  
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So shall we start blaming producers/record labels too for not making/distributing that are in your opinion, tunes that you wana hear/play out??



Far from it. There are billions of good labels / tunes out there. The problem is, most DJs buy the same fucking tunes. And in turn, a hell of a lot of clubbers put up with it. (Especially when they're off their tits on drugs, and all they care about is how "banging" or "anthemic" the music is.) Ahem.

#713093 - 11/12/2003 01:04 AM Re: sets getting shorter [Re: LiamStyles]  
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Well the fact that the "said" DJs are choosing these same old same old tidy/nukleuz style records/tunes does make them a shit DJ

IMO




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#713094 - 11/12/2003 02:27 AM Re: sets getting shorter [Re: liquideyes]  
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So shall we start blaming producers/record labels too for not making/distributing that are in your opinion, tunes that you wana hear/play out??



Far from it. There are billions of good labels / tunes out there. The problem is, most DJs buy the same fucking tunes. And in turn, a hell of a lot of clubbers put up with it. (Especially when they're off their tits on drugs, and all they care about is how "banging" or "anthemic" the music is.) Ahem.




So maybe thats what them clubs want.. i mean they have the opportunity to book other djs that dont play obvious tunes.. maybe its that in order to hear lesser known tunes you need to go to more underground nights.. im not saying this IS the case but tryin to put a different perspective on it, maybe its not the dj but the kind of night you are going to that doesnt match up to what you personally like.. i hope im wording this in a way that is understood for how i meant it!!


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#713095 - 11/12/2003 01:59 PM Re: sets getting shorter [Re: Claire DC]  
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It's often what the punters wnat, as liquid eyes said. I think it's all about a happy medium (some well known stuff, and some stuff that is a bit diferent)

However, just as there are dj's who play predomenantly Tidy/ Nukleuz stuff, there are those who feel they are superior for playing mainly unrelesahed material, but often what they are playing has not been released for a reason .

Many demo CD's will have the unreleased mix of a track which ismore well known - but sometimes that unreleased mix is pretty poor - hence the better version being released.


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#713096 - 11/12/2003 02:32 PM Re: sets getting shorter [Re: LittleMissLoud]  
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However, just as there are dj's who play predomenantly Tidy/ Nukleuz stuff, there are those who feel they are superior for playing mainly unrelesahed material, but often what they are playing has not been released for a reason .






Agreed, some of the unreleased stuff may get signed tho.. and its as likely to get signed to tidy or nukleuz as it is any other "credible" label so what makes it better than other tunes already out on these labels.. the fact that its not been heard too many times? That its a "better" tune?? That a well liked dj plays it??? The fact its played in a "better" club???? The actual style????? There's loadsa factors that come into it imo and i dont think anyone can say it is one certain factor for sure!!


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#713097 - 11/12/2003 05:09 PM Re: sets getting shorter [Re: Claire DC]  
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I never said there was one factor, and I never said that all material that is unreleased will never be released, or doesn't deserve to be released, just that some material that is unreleased is that way for a reason - i.e. most poeple (dj's, clubbers, record labels etc) would think it's pretty shit!


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#713098 - 11/12/2003 05:47 PM Re: sets getting shorter [Re: LittleMissLoud]  
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my ideal set time would be 2 to 3 hours..sorry to be self indulgent, but i'd have to cut out half of what i play to do less..

the 80 minutes available on a cd i always find far too short a time to do all the things i want on a single set..


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#713099 - 11/12/2003 05:59 PM Re: sets getting shorter [Re: LittleMissLoud]  
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I never said there was one factor, and I never said that all material that is unreleased will never be released, or doesn't deserve to be released, just that some material that is unreleased is that way for a reason - i.e. most poeple (dj's, clubbers, record labels etc) would think it's pretty shit!




I never said you did.. i quoted that because i agreed with it.. anythin after agreed was just what i thought myself!!


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#713100 - 11/12/2003 06:33 PM Re: sets getting shorter [Re: LittleMissLoud]  
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I never said there was one factor, and I never said that all material that is unreleased will never be released, or doesn't deserve to be released, just that some material that is unreleased is that way for a reason - i.e. most poeple (dj's, clubbers, record labels etc) would think it's pretty shit!





who you talking to there Ali???


#713101 - 11/12/2003 06:46 PM Re: sets getting shorter [Re: Captain_Cunted]  
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fergies brother ken is a good dj




Indeed he is. Him and Mike Patterson are doing well for themselves under their C.O.F. moniker.


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#713102 - 11/12/2003 06:48 PM Re: sets getting shorter [Re: Phil_B]  
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Well the fact that the "said" DJs are choosing these same old same old tidy/nukleuz style records/tunes does make them a shit DJ

IMO




*wanders off knowing that i'm a shit dj now*




LMAO!!!!

Theres always exceptions to the rule. And you my friend are definately an exception.


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#713103 - 11/12/2003 06:51 PM Re: sets getting shorter [Re: liquideyes]  
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There are billions of good labels / tunes out there. The problem is, most DJs buy the same fucking tunes. And in turn, a hell of a lot of clubbers put up with it. (Especially when they're off their tits on drugs, and all they care about is how "banging" or "anthemic" the music is.) Ahem.






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#713104 - 11/12/2003 08:08 PM Re: sets getting shorter [Re: Claire DC]  
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most DJs buy the same fucking tunes. And in turn, a hell of a lot of clubbers put up with it.





this sounds exactly like thet "chart" syndrome.

the reason there are so many boy bands producing identical shite is cos record companies know what will sell.

same thing.

smaller niche.

#713105 - 11/12/2003 08:13 PM Re: sets getting shorter [Re: Mod1]  
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my ideal set time would be 2 to 3 hours..sorry to be self indulgent, but i'd have to cut out half of what i play to do less..

the 80 minutes available on a cd i always find far too short a time to do all the things i want on a single set..




well said


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#713106 - 11/13/2003 10:05 AM Re: sets getting shorter [Re: LittleMissLoud]  
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there are those who feel they are superior for playing mainly unrelesahed material




Also one of my pet hates. I don't see the big deal about having a pre-release tune, it doesn't make you a good DJ! I have no qualms about mixing 3 or 4 year old tunes into my new CDs. Besides, unless you spin really well known tracks, it's not as if anyone is going to know how old the tunes are!

#713107 - 11/13/2003 10:36 AM Re: sets getting shorter [Re: Tony.P]  
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I'm not bothered in what you lot have to say anymore , i'm just shocked one of my threads has had this many replies

#713108 - 11/13/2003 11:46 AM Re: sets getting shorter [Re: LittleMissLoud]  
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It's often what the punters wnat, as liquid eyes said. I think it's all about a happy medium (some well known stuff, and some stuff that is a bit diferent)

However, just as there are dj's who play predomenantly Tidy/ Nukleuz stuff, there are those who feel they are superior for playing mainly unrelesahed material, but often what they are playing has not been released for a reason .

Many demo CD's will have the unreleased mix of a track which ismore well known - but sometimes that unreleased mix is pretty poor - hence the better version being released.




Have you never seen karim play before then??

Not only that, but some of the stuff that gets uplaoded to generoproject.com by unsigned producers is superb!! For example, Pienaar + bamford 'Dark Side' and 'Stratosphere' are incredibly well produced tracks which shitloads of djs have been playing - Dynamix have finally got round to releasing them and so now even more DJs get chance to play them...... a quality track is a quality track whether it is released or not....the same goes for a shit track being a shit track released or not!


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#713109 - 11/13/2003 11:49 AM Re: sets getting shorter [Re: liquideyes]  
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I have no qualms about mixing 3 or 4 year old tunes into my new CDs




agree with that completely - had Edge 1 'Compounded' (oldskool track from 1991) on one of my older cds and that seemed to get more comments then the rest of the cd itself..... Like I said in previous post, a quality track is a quality track regardless of age/who produced it/whther its released or not......


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#713110 - 11/13/2003 12:11 PM Re: sets getting shorter [Re: Tony.P]  
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I'm not bothered in what you lot have to say anymore , i'm just shocked one of my threads has had this many replies




You lame sad cunt.


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#713111 - 11/13/2003 01:23 PM Re: sets getting shorter [Re: Chris_Hutchinson]  
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stuff that gets uplaoded to generoproject.com by unsigned producers is superb!!




I know my computer skills are shite mate, but had a look at the site and looks good, loads of familiar names actually. how do you get the tracks to play though???

i know it will be simple

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stuff that gets uplaoded to generoproject.com by unsigned producers is superb!!




I know my computer skills are shite mate, but had a look at the site and looks good, loads of familiar names actually. how do you get the tracks to play though???

i know it will be simple




there is a little arrow next to track title - click that then click DOWNLOAD hehehe

you gotta be registered first tho btw, and also, some tracks are hosted by soundlcick (will take you to a page that looks like this - http://www.soundclick.com/bands/9/rudimusic.htm - which you can then register at and download from...... i STRONGLY suggest d/loading the metal nrg track called 'paranoia' - its 190bpm remix of some heavy metal tune and its absolutly incredible.....tho waaay too fast!)

any more problems, gimme a shout and will explain if I can :-)


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#713113 - 11/13/2003 03:43 PM Re: sets getting shorter [Re: Chris_Hutchinson]  
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cheers chris...nice one

#713114 - 11/13/2003 07:00 PM Re: sets getting shorter [Re: liquideyes]  
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there are those who feel they are superior for playing mainly unrelesahed material




Also one of my pet hates. I don't see the big deal about having a pre-release tune, it doesn't make you a good DJ! I have no qualms about mixing 3 or 4 year old tunes into my new CDs. Besides, unless you spin really well known tracks, it's not as if anyone is going to know how old the tunes are!




i agree, it shouldn't boost ego's too much, but some of the time DJ's are trying to get talent scouted or whatever, or even just impress someone in the crowd they know might be there. surely, as long as it fits the set, dropping a rare or brand new tune shows they do have some of the skills it takes to be a good DJ (ie, new, good tracks)? mebbe

#713115 - 11/13/2003 10:38 PM Re: sets getting shorter [Re: Phil_r]  
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Chris - of course there is a wealth of excellent tunage that hasn't/ will never be released - just that some of it is deservably not signed!

And Edge1 'compounded' is a classic


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#713116 - 11/13/2003 11:05 PM Re: sets getting shorter [Re: LittleMissLoud]  
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Chris - of course there is a wealth of excellent tunage that hasn't/ will never be released - just that some of it is deservably not signed!





lol, your probably right on that thought on more occasions then not with unsigned stuff


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And Edge1 'compounded' is a classic




sure is - gonna be in my record box @ smile methinks


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#713117 - 11/13/2003 11:19 PM Re: sets getting shorter [Re: Chris_Hutchinson]  
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I really love all that old hardcore of the 90-93 era, just don't like the stuff now!

Whoops !!


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