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#760951 - 01/07/2004 05:21 PM
Re: The state of trance
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Sparky said: I rated this post one star for the simple reason that its tiresome to compare 1999 to 2003 in terms of producing "classics", when there hasn't been an adequate passage of time for us to judge 2003.
I personally think 2003 has been an awesome year for trance and in a couple of years time we will be going on and on about the numerous trance classics in the making that we have enjoyed in 2003.
2004 will be Ferry Corsten's year...
To be honest, I fall into this shit category of constantly comparing 1999-2000 Trance to that of today, its wrong I know but I do put this down purely to the fact of it was that time I got into it. Its the memories I guess.
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#760952 - 01/07/2004 05:29 PM
Re: The state of trance
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Sparky said: there hasn't been an adequate passage of time for us to judge 2003.
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2004 will be Ferry Corsten's year...
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Personally I think Trance is getting better and better, due to the excellent new sounds/effects/synths coming out etc.. also the fact that more and more people are now able to make professional music from home, people who have always had the talent but not £1000s to put into gear/studios etc... I can see some seriously good tunage coming out in the next few years and even more uplifting sounds being created. Of course the danger is the market can get flooded with a load of shite but since Corsten/Burren/Van Dyke are already around / have effectively set the benchmarked I dont think so much shite will get through as it does in other genres. What I admire most about the Trance genre is the fact that the artists are always seeking new sounds and opt for building tunes from the very bottom up.
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#760957 - 01/08/2004 12:31 AM
Re: The state of trance
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addy2hotty said: My vote goes for Dogzilla.
Definitely, Simon Patterson will blow up big time this year.
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#760958 - 01/08/2004 12:15 PM
Re: The state of trance
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Very much agreed with James and Liam. Benrostwood, why does trance have to revolve around "classics"? Obviously in any genre, it gets harder and harder to write a new classic as time goes on and that genre matures. A lot of the supposed classics are not much cop in my opinion, I mean "Out of the Blue" for example was a very energetic, memorable tune, but a bit too blatant and lacking in depth for me. I actually think trance has really picked up again. I reckon the worst period was around 2000 onwards, where loads of artists jumped on the "big riff" / super-duper-epic trance bandwagon, and it got a bit stale. I think it's got a lot better since then, with trance crossing over with techno and electro a lot more, and much cleverer / subtler tunes, better-produced percussion, cooler basslines etc, instead of big unsubtle riffs and samey basslines. Ben, maybe you're just buying the wrong compilations, or going to the wrong nights. Serious and Passion have been the benchmark trance nights for me. And admittedly, good, non-cash-in trance compilations are hard to find. I must say I enjoyed the recent Godskitchen compilation.
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#760962 - 01/08/2004 03:14 PM
Re: The state of trance
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#760963 - 01/08/2004 04:26 PM
Re: The state of trance
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liquideyes said: Very much agreed with James and Liam.
Benrostwood, why does trance have to revolve around "classics"? Obviously in any genre, it gets harder and harder to write a new classic as time goes on and that genre matures. A lot of the supposed classics are not much cop in my opinion, I mean "Out of the Blue" for example was a very energetic, memorable tune, but a bit too blatant and lacking in depth for me.
I actually think trance has really picked up again. I reckon the worst period was around 2000 onwards, where loads of artists jumped on the "big riff" / super-duper-epic trance bandwagon, and it got a bit stale.
I think it's got a lot better since then, with trance crossing over with techno and electro a lot more, and much cleverer / subtler tunes, better-produced percussion, cooler basslines etc, instead of big unsubtle riffs and samey basslines.
Ben, maybe you're just buying the wrong compilations, or going to the wrong nights. Serious and Passion have been the benchmark trance nights for me. And admittedly, good, non-cash-in trance compilations are hard to find. I must say I enjoyed the recent Godskitchen compilation.
I also enjoyed the godskitchen album but not many tracks on it were that memorable and stuck in my mind as being amazing. At no point have i said i dislike trance as i dont, if nething i probably still enjoy it more than harder music but i find more inventiveness and originality appearing in the harder stuff at the mo than in trance.
As for the classics issue, im not saying everything has to be a classic im just pointing out that the scope for future classics, that we're all going to remember a few years down the line as being one of the tunes from a byegone era like we all think of tracks from '99, is very low.
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#760964 - 01/08/2004 06:46 PM
Re: The state of trance
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benrostwood said: As for the classics issue, im not saying everything has to be a classic im just pointing out that the scope for future classics, that we're all going to remember a few years down the line as being one of the tunes from a byegone era like we all think of tracks from '99, is very low.
yeah...really low
offhand, i did this list for my best of 2003 list
ronski speed 'iris' andain 'beautiful things' motorcycle 'as the rush comes' holden and thompson 'nothing' mind one 'star for me' tomcraft 'brainwashed(that mucho mix) pulser 'my religion' rah 'wave' afterburn 'summer sun' mesh 'purple haze' pos 'remember (summer sun)' ferry corsten 'indigo' dj ton tb 'electronic malfunction' push 'jouney of life' kid vicious 'proceed' massive lust 'never' plastic boy 'live another life' rapid eye 'stealing beauty' mr sam and fred baker 'foreverwaiting' rank1 'breathing' igor s 'boomerang' dk 'murder was the bass'
you may argue about what genre the last two tracks fall into, but i heard them played by Tiesto around April time (it seemed to take a while for the hard dance DJ's to catch on...lol)
always easy to be a bit early without the test of time and all that, but this is a list of classic fucking tunes if you ask me!
if it was a best of 2003 compilation, i think id buy it and remember it well!
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